Just a reminder that this blog has been replaced by a new blog called
Researching My American and Canadian Ancestors http://americancanadianancestors.blogspot.com/
Edward
www.kipp-blake-families.ca
Friday, April 29, 2011
Friday, April 22, 2011
Researching My American and Canadian Ancestors
I am going to move the Kip/Kipp Family in America blog to a new blog called Researching My American and Canadian Ancestors http://americancanadianancestors.blogspot.com/
I will try to post information on who I am researching at the moment, what archives and libraries we are visiting and genealogy conferences we are attending.
I will try to post information on who I am researching at the moment, what archives and libraries we are visiting and genealogy conferences we are attending.
Monday, April 18, 2011
Connecticut State Library
Last week we spent one day researching some of my Connecticut families at the State Library in Hartford. We stayed at Windsor Locks about 15 minutes north of Hartford, so had to contend with morning and evening traffic, but it wasn't that bad. We worked our way through the spreadsheet of items we had prepared in advance but didn't find any really unusual discoveries.
I did find however that the State Library had a complete 2048 page copy of
Abstract of the Title of Kip's Bay Farm in the City of New York, with All Known Maps Relating thereto...Also, the Early History of the Kip Family and the Genealogy as refers to the Title, by John J. Post, NY, 1894. PP. i - x, preface, 2056 p. front., fold maps. 27 cm.
Most libraries only have the 13 pages of genealogy from the front of the book.
I know of several other complete copies none of them in Canada. So I took the opportunity to make digital images of a number of pages. I want to go through these images to confirm or add to family lines.
I did find however that the State Library had a complete 2048 page copy of
Abstract of the Title of Kip's Bay Farm in the City of New York, with All Known Maps Relating thereto...Also, the Early History of the Kip Family and the Genealogy as refers to the Title, by John J. Post, NY, 1894. PP. i - x, preface, 2056 p. front., fold maps. 27 cm.
Most libraries only have the 13 pages of genealogy from the front of the book.
I know of several other complete copies none of them in Canada. So I took the opportunity to make digital images of a number of pages. I want to go through these images to confirm or add to family lines.
Kipp-Kip-de Kype family
Posted by my wife Elizabeth on her blog.
http://kippeeb.blogspot.com/ Monday April 18th, 2011
My husband has been researching his paternal line for over forty years (Kipp-Kip-de Kype family). The published work on this family that is generally referred to is History of The Kip Family In America, by Frederic E. Kip and Margarita L. Hawley, 1928 (Private printing). Unfortunately my husband did not find the name of his ancestor Isaac Kipp (born 1 Nov 1764, New York, USA (and thought to be Dutchess County)) in the book but there are many lines that are not traced down. He has spent a great deal of time tracing down the many lines and now has a nine generation chart on his webpage for the Kip(p) family of New Amsterdam there as well as worldconnect. Fortunately yDNA arrived and he was able to connect himself back to the Kip family of New Amsterdam by matching people who could trace back with a paper trail (paper genealogy is still most important).
Attending the New England Regional Genealogical Conference has been in the back of our minds for a number of years and we finally did make it there this year. He attended sessions that pertained to New England and New York records for the most part. It is interesting to hear what others have to say on the subject of these records. I think for myself it is the first time that I have had a glimmer of understanding of how people do do their genealogy when they trace back to the 1600s in New England! I have to date found it very very difficult but in my case that isn't a problem at all since I do not have any ancestors on this side of the Atlantic prior to 1818 when my Routledge family arrived (except for a short stay in Halifax in 1807 by my George Lawley when he served with the Royal Welsh Fusiliers (then the 23rd Regiment of Foot)).
Back to the Kip(p) family and there is an extra bit of interesting genealogy just to make the pursuit ever more exciting. There were three Kipp emigrants from Germany arriving in the 1750s and naturalized in Pennsylvania who spell their name Kipp and with the movement about these families have been confused with the New Amsterdam Kip(p) family. Certainly Ed wondered until he did his yDNA whether he too was a descendant of the German Kipp families. We now have four distinct lines of individuals who trace back to German Kipp families and we are now researching those
lines in terms of locating their emigration point and their naturalization point. Gradually we will see the lines appearing in the census as well so that we can to a certain extent assist people as they search for their ancestral line.
I went onto Footnote.com to spend a day looking at the Kipp family and discovered that the Poughkeepsie Journal is scanned and on this site from the earliest days (prior to 1800!). That will be a tool that might assist my husband with his research. The family lore coming down through the Richard Titus Kipp family (brother to my husband's great grandfather) was that the family had come from Dutchess County New York, The census of 1790 (Isaac Kipp married Hannah Mead 29 August 1790) lists an Isaac Kipp over 16 and in his household there is a female. They are listed beside or with Jonathan Mead (thought to be Jonathan Mead the cooper (and he would be the III, his father was the II cooper and his father the I cooper) and four lines down Nathaniel Mead known to be the brother of Jonathan Mead the Cooper III. Isaac Kipp is missing from the 1800 census at Northeast Town but does appear to be at Rensselaerville, NY and the family there is listed as 4 members under 16 and 2 members over 25. Isaac was born in 1764 so he would now be 36 and Hannah was born in 1770 and she would be 30. They had five living sons by 1800 (Isaac b 1791, Jonathan bc 1792, James bc 1793, John bc 1795 and David b 1797) but one son Jonathan is thought to have not come to Ontario with them - he was known to be in Ontario by the late 1810s. Jonathan Kipp would appear to be with his Mead grandparents on the 1800 and 1810 census. The naming is interesting in that Jonathan would be the forename of Hannah's father and John the forename of the furthest back ancestor on the Mead side before the other two Jonathans. We are left to contemplate was the name of Isaac's father Isaac and his grandfather Jacobus (James)? The name David occurs in the Mead family. On arrival in Ontario, the first known daughter Elizabeth was born just a month after their arrival followed by Phoebe in 1802, Susannah in 1805, Richard Titus in 1807, Benjamin in 1811 (my husband's great grandfather) and Daniel in 1813. We continue searching out these families.
http://kippeeb.blogspot.com/ Monday April 18th, 2011
My husband has been researching his paternal line for over forty years (Kipp-Kip-de Kype family). The published work on this family that is generally referred to is History of The Kip Family In America, by Frederic E. Kip and Margarita L. Hawley, 1928 (Private printing). Unfortunately my husband did not find the name of his ancestor Isaac Kipp (born 1 Nov 1764, New York, USA (and thought to be Dutchess County)) in the book but there are many lines that are not traced down. He has spent a great deal of time tracing down the many lines and now has a nine generation chart on his webpage for the Kip(p) family of New Amsterdam there as well as worldconnect. Fortunately yDNA arrived and he was able to connect himself back to the Kip family of New Amsterdam by matching people who could trace back with a paper trail (paper genealogy is still most important).
Attending the New England Regional Genealogical Conference has been in the back of our minds for a number of years and we finally did make it there this year. He attended sessions that pertained to New England and New York records for the most part. It is interesting to hear what others have to say on the subject of these records. I think for myself it is the first time that I have had a glimmer of understanding of how people do do their genealogy when they trace back to the 1600s in New England! I have to date found it very very difficult but in my case that isn't a problem at all since I do not have any ancestors on this side of the Atlantic prior to 1818 when my Routledge family arrived (except for a short stay in Halifax in 1807 by my George Lawley when he served with the Royal Welsh Fusiliers (then the 23rd Regiment of Foot)).
Back to the Kip(p) family and there is an extra bit of interesting genealogy just to make the pursuit ever more exciting. There were three Kipp emigrants from Germany arriving in the 1750s and naturalized in Pennsylvania who spell their name Kipp and with the movement about these families have been confused with the New Amsterdam Kip(p) family. Certainly Ed wondered until he did his yDNA whether he too was a descendant of the German Kipp families. We now have four distinct lines of individuals who trace back to German Kipp families and we are now researching those
lines in terms of locating their emigration point and their naturalization point. Gradually we will see the lines appearing in the census as well so that we can to a certain extent assist people as they search for their ancestral line.
I went onto Footnote.com to spend a day looking at the Kipp family and discovered that the Poughkeepsie Journal is scanned and on this site from the earliest days (prior to 1800!). That will be a tool that might assist my husband with his research. The family lore coming down through the Richard Titus Kipp family (brother to my husband's great grandfather) was that the family had come from Dutchess County New York, The census of 1790 (Isaac Kipp married Hannah Mead 29 August 1790) lists an Isaac Kipp over 16 and in his household there is a female. They are listed beside or with Jonathan Mead (thought to be Jonathan Mead the cooper (and he would be the III, his father was the II cooper and his father the I cooper) and four lines down Nathaniel Mead known to be the brother of Jonathan Mead the Cooper III. Isaac Kipp is missing from the 1800 census at Northeast Town but does appear to be at Rensselaerville, NY and the family there is listed as 4 members under 16 and 2 members over 25. Isaac was born in 1764 so he would now be 36 and Hannah was born in 1770 and she would be 30. They had five living sons by 1800 (Isaac b 1791, Jonathan bc 1792, James bc 1793, John bc 1795 and David b 1797) but one son Jonathan is thought to have not come to Ontario with them - he was known to be in Ontario by the late 1810s. Jonathan Kipp would appear to be with his Mead grandparents on the 1800 and 1810 census. The naming is interesting in that Jonathan would be the forename of Hannah's father and John the forename of the furthest back ancestor on the Mead side before the other two Jonathans. We are left to contemplate was the name of Isaac's father Isaac and his grandfather Jacobus (James)? The name David occurs in the Mead family. On arrival in Ontario, the first known daughter Elizabeth was born just a month after their arrival followed by Phoebe in 1802, Susannah in 1805, Richard Titus in 1807, Benjamin in 1811 (my husband's great grandfather) and Daniel in 1813. We continue searching out these families.
New England Regional Genealogical Conference
Posted by my wife Elizabeth on her blog.
http://kippeeb.blogspot.com/ Monday April 15th, 2011
We attended the New England Regional Genealogical Conference in Springfield, MA along with searches in cemeteries in that area and then a workshop with the New York Biographical and Genealogical Society at Elmsford, NY. We had a really busy time and good success with finding particular graves in cemeteries (my husband's New England ancestors).
The Conference was excellent and the facility very good. There were over 800 attendees at the Conference which ran for four days. I attended a lecture at every session and picked either DNA, Irish, French-Canadian or English Records for my choices. The lectures were all very good and it was interesting attending a conference dedicated to New England Research.
I will write about the lectures that I especially found interesting and could apply to my research. The lecture on autosomal testing was particularly interesting for me. I have a better understanding of how I can use the results that have been given to me by the testing company. I hope to persuade some of my nearer relatives (all my matches are 4th cousin or greater and all of them are actually more than 4th cousin thus far as I have managed to figure out who most of my 4th cousins are) to test just to see the commonalities between them and myself.
One cemetery that I found fascinating was at Sleepy Hollow, NY. This is an enormous cemetery and there are two large Kipp plots which was our reason for visiting it. Washington Irving is buried there and we stopped to see his family's plot. There are several very very large mausoleums there for old New York families of the area including the Roosevelt family.
http://kippeeb.blogspot.com/ Monday April 15th, 2011
We attended the New England Regional Genealogical Conference in Springfield, MA along with searches in cemeteries in that area and then a workshop with the New York Biographical and Genealogical Society at Elmsford, NY. We had a really busy time and good success with finding particular graves in cemeteries (my husband's New England ancestors).
The Conference was excellent and the facility very good. There were over 800 attendees at the Conference which ran for four days. I attended a lecture at every session and picked either DNA, Irish, French-Canadian or English Records for my choices. The lectures were all very good and it was interesting attending a conference dedicated to New England Research.
I will write about the lectures that I especially found interesting and could apply to my research. The lecture on autosomal testing was particularly interesting for me. I have a better understanding of how I can use the results that have been given to me by the testing company. I hope to persuade some of my nearer relatives (all my matches are 4th cousin or greater and all of them are actually more than 4th cousin thus far as I have managed to figure out who most of my 4th cousins are) to test just to see the commonalities between them and myself.
One cemetery that I found fascinating was at Sleepy Hollow, NY. This is an enormous cemetery and there are two large Kipp plots which was our reason for visiting it. Washington Irving is buried there and we stopped to see his family's plot. There are several very very large mausoleums there for old New York families of the area including the Roosevelt family.
Friday, March 25, 2011
Adding detail to my family trees
The last few weeks I have been making use of several websites to advance the detail in various family trees. Find A Grave can lead you to tombstone data on family members. After that I then go into Ancestry.com and search for census and other data to add to the profiles. I add this information directly into the Notes field. I may also look at World Connect. I have also been making use of a new genealogy web site, www.mocavo.com to find new information. Some of this "new detail" appears on the family trees I have on World Connect (Kip/Kipp Family in America and Link_Mathes). My family trees on Ancestry.com will be updated sometime in April.
Allen County Public Library
We were recently doing research at the Allen County Public Library in Fort Wayne, Indiana. My main focus was on Quaker records and records dealing with Kip/Kipp families in NY and NJ. I managed to get through the items we had found in their catalogue in advance and also added a few more. We spent a little over a day and will probably go back in the future. They have a very large genealogy collection, most of it on open shelves. You can take as many digital photographs as you wish. So if you decide to go there take you camera and your computer.
Sunday, March 6, 2011
February 2011
Feb 1 to 6
Another fast week with not time for genealogy research. We managed to get in two cross country skis this week. We just ski for a few kilometres along the Ottawa River which isn't very far from our house. We spent a few hours working on our slide shows for our trips last year.
Feb 7 to 13
Continued working on slide shows of our trips. This week we managed one skate on the Rideau Canal and a longer cross country ski along the Ottawa River. Not much genealogy work this week. On Saturday we went to the BIFHSGO meeting where we sat in on two interesting talks: one on Online Family Trees at Ancestry; the other on Tracing Dawson's Canadian Adventure, which was about George Mercer Dawson whose family came from Edinburgh to Canada. He travelled all over Canada in his explorations with Boundary survey parties and the Geological Survey and eventually became head of the Geological Survey of Canada.
Feb 14 to 20
On Monday evening we attended the Opera to see Don Carlo by Giuseppe Verdi which was a rerun of the Live HD presentation from the Met in New York City. It was very long but good. This was the ultimate in tragedies. I would say the more things change the more things remain the same. Went skating before the temperature ruined the ice on the Rideau Canal for the weekend.
Feb 21 to 28
Rideau Canal is open again so we got to skate on it again. We purchased a new cultured marble top for our upstairs bathroom vanity. It is now installed and looks very nice. This week I have been working on Kip and Kipp names I have found in www.findagrave.com. At the same time I am searching Ancestry.com to find Census and others records for these people. This is taking a long time but I am finding a lot of new information. Sunday we went skating on the Rideau Canal again. We have made it out 5 times this year as compared to once in 2010. Last day of February we finally received a nice snow fall, about 12 cm.
In the February I read the following books:
1) The Immigrant Experience: The German Americans, by Anne Galicich & Sandra Stotsky, General Editor. Chelsea House Publishers, New York. 2001.
2) Edison: The Man Who Made The Future. by Ronal W. Clark. G P Putnam's Sons, New York. 1977.
Another fast week with not time for genealogy research. We managed to get in two cross country skis this week. We just ski for a few kilometres along the Ottawa River which isn't very far from our house. We spent a few hours working on our slide shows for our trips last year.
Feb 7 to 13
Continued working on slide shows of our trips. This week we managed one skate on the Rideau Canal and a longer cross country ski along the Ottawa River. Not much genealogy work this week. On Saturday we went to the BIFHSGO meeting where we sat in on two interesting talks: one on Online Family Trees at Ancestry; the other on Tracing Dawson's Canadian Adventure, which was about George Mercer Dawson whose family came from Edinburgh to Canada. He travelled all over Canada in his explorations with Boundary survey parties and the Geological Survey and eventually became head of the Geological Survey of Canada.
Feb 14 to 20
On Monday evening we attended the Opera to see Don Carlo by Giuseppe Verdi which was a rerun of the Live HD presentation from the Met in New York City. It was very long but good. This was the ultimate in tragedies. I would say the more things change the more things remain the same. Went skating before the temperature ruined the ice on the Rideau Canal for the weekend.
Feb 21 to 28
Rideau Canal is open again so we got to skate on it again. We purchased a new cultured marble top for our upstairs bathroom vanity. It is now installed and looks very nice. This week I have been working on Kip and Kipp names I have found in www.findagrave.com. At the same time I am searching Ancestry.com to find Census and others records for these people. This is taking a long time but I am finding a lot of new information. Sunday we went skating on the Rideau Canal again. We have made it out 5 times this year as compared to once in 2010. Last day of February we finally received a nice snow fall, about 12 cm.
In the February I read the following books:
1) The Immigrant Experience: The German Americans, by Anne Galicich & Sandra Stotsky, General Editor. Chelsea House Publishers, New York. 2001.
2) Edison: The Man Who Made The Future. by Ronal W. Clark. G P Putnam's Sons, New York. 1977.
Monday, January 31, 2011
January 2011
Jan 1 to 9
News Years Day was a bit wet with some rain which with the temperature being above 0 C washed away most of the snow. We went over to our daughter's place for supper on New Years day. Sunday the snow was mostly gone and the weather improved enough to give an hour of sun in the afternoon. The cold weather is returning. This was a day to do some backups of computer files for off site storage. We picked up our first new car in 10 years on Wednesday. We bought a 2010 Dodge Journey. We now have a reliable car in which to travel. It is exciting to have a new car. The radio system is connected to a hands free device for the cell phone. Also the entertainment panel has voice recognition control for the radio and hands free device.
The rest of the week brought some snow again. By Saturday we had received maybe 5 cm of new snow. The temperatures have been relatively mild for this area, hovering around -6 C. Saturday I learned how to use the voice recognition system in the new car to control the radio and set it up to accommodate hands free calling from our cell phone. It really works well! This week I have continued adding family data to my files from the Roger Williams descendants book III. I have also been adding Link family information from a correspondent. By Saturday afternoon there was just about enough snow on the ground to go cross country skiing, which we did. We skied along the Ottawa River! Of course the snow also required that we shovel the lane way. Oh well! Walked 64.9 km.
Jan 10 to 16
Cross country skied twice this week, along the Ottawa River. Tuesday I was back doing volunteer work at the Friends of the Library and Archives Canada book sorting. We had a bit of snow. Our daughter went back to teaching in Wisconsin. This week I have continued adding family data to my files from the Roger Williams descendants book III. Walked 51.8 km.
Jan 17 to 23
I general it has been winter here in Ottawa. We get 1 to 2 cm of snow when is does snow. This means cleaning off the cars and the driveway. We went skiing once this week. The last two or three days have been really cold with temperatures of -22 C at night. This should moderate next week. We have been working on creating a slide show in PowerPoint of our European trip last October. Next we will work on our London, England slide show. This last week I finished looking at the materials we photographed two years ago in Salt Lake City along with what I collected at the Allen County Public Library and also some items my wife collected in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. I am also making a spreadsheet of Kip/Kipp deeds to Dutchess County New York from about 1726 to 1949.(FHL film). This weekend we looked after the two dogs Hogan and Jackson while their parents were busy. We also looked in on the two rabbits for a short time to make sure they had enough water and food. Sunday night was really cold with the temperature going down to -30 C. Walked 56.0 km.
Jan 24 to 30
This week started off cold but has warmed up considerably. I continue to volunteer at the book sorting group of the Friends of the Library and Archives Canada. I finished the spreadsheet on the Kip/Kipp deeds of Dutchess County, NY and posted it on my web site. We have been working on slide shows for our European, London, England and Canadian Maritime trips from last year. We are almost finished. Thursday we went skating on the Rideau Canal. The ice condition was good and we had a good skate. We have also been enjoying our new car and not having to worry if it is going to get us there and back again. Sunday we went cross country skiing. Walked 58.5 km.
In the January I have read the following books:
Pendulum: Leon Foucault and the Triumph of Science, by Amir D. Aczel. 2003;
Clothing The Colonists; Fashions in New Netherlands, by Friends of Crailo State Historic Site, 1995;
Our Young Soldier: Lieutenant Francis Simcoe 6 June 1791 - 6 April 1812, by Mary Beacock Fryer, 1996;
New York, by Edward Rutherfurd, 2009.
News Years Day was a bit wet with some rain which with the temperature being above 0 C washed away most of the snow. We went over to our daughter's place for supper on New Years day. Sunday the snow was mostly gone and the weather improved enough to give an hour of sun in the afternoon. The cold weather is returning. This was a day to do some backups of computer files for off site storage. We picked up our first new car in 10 years on Wednesday. We bought a 2010 Dodge Journey. We now have a reliable car in which to travel. It is exciting to have a new car. The radio system is connected to a hands free device for the cell phone. Also the entertainment panel has voice recognition control for the radio and hands free device.
The rest of the week brought some snow again. By Saturday we had received maybe 5 cm of new snow. The temperatures have been relatively mild for this area, hovering around -6 C. Saturday I learned how to use the voice recognition system in the new car to control the radio and set it up to accommodate hands free calling from our cell phone. It really works well! This week I have continued adding family data to my files from the Roger Williams descendants book III. I have also been adding Link family information from a correspondent. By Saturday afternoon there was just about enough snow on the ground to go cross country skiing, which we did. We skied along the Ottawa River! Of course the snow also required that we shovel the lane way. Oh well! Walked 64.9 km.
Jan 10 to 16
Cross country skied twice this week, along the Ottawa River. Tuesday I was back doing volunteer work at the Friends of the Library and Archives Canada book sorting. We had a bit of snow. Our daughter went back to teaching in Wisconsin. This week I have continued adding family data to my files from the Roger Williams descendants book III. Walked 51.8 km.
Jan 17 to 23
I general it has been winter here in Ottawa. We get 1 to 2 cm of snow when is does snow. This means cleaning off the cars and the driveway. We went skiing once this week. The last two or three days have been really cold with temperatures of -22 C at night. This should moderate next week. We have been working on creating a slide show in PowerPoint of our European trip last October. Next we will work on our London, England slide show. This last week I finished looking at the materials we photographed two years ago in Salt Lake City along with what I collected at the Allen County Public Library and also some items my wife collected in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. I am also making a spreadsheet of Kip/Kipp deeds to Dutchess County New York from about 1726 to 1949.(FHL film). This weekend we looked after the two dogs Hogan and Jackson while their parents were busy. We also looked in on the two rabbits for a short time to make sure they had enough water and food. Sunday night was really cold with the temperature going down to -30 C. Walked 56.0 km.
Jan 24 to 30
This week started off cold but has warmed up considerably. I continue to volunteer at the book sorting group of the Friends of the Library and Archives Canada. I finished the spreadsheet on the Kip/Kipp deeds of Dutchess County, NY and posted it on my web site. We have been working on slide shows for our European, London, England and Canadian Maritime trips from last year. We are almost finished. Thursday we went skating on the Rideau Canal. The ice condition was good and we had a good skate. We have also been enjoying our new car and not having to worry if it is going to get us there and back again. Sunday we went cross country skiing. Walked 58.5 km.
In the January I have read the following books:
Pendulum: Leon Foucault and the Triumph of Science, by Amir D. Aczel. 2003;
Clothing The Colonists; Fashions in New Netherlands, by Friends of Crailo State Historic Site, 1995;
Our Young Soldier: Lieutenant Francis Simcoe 6 June 1791 - 6 April 1812, by Mary Beacock Fryer, 1996;
New York, by Edward Rutherfurd, 2009.
Saturday, January 1, 2011
Dec 27 to 31
Another week which went quickly. We went cross country skiing once more this week. The snow keeps disappearing with no new snow in sight. It rained a bit on Friday and then the temperature went up to about 7 C and the snow started to disappear. I continue to add new sources and data to my Link and Kipp families. A number of cousins have contacted me with new information, which is great. The last day of the year we went out and bought a new car, which we have needed for awhile. Looking forward to driving it. As usual we watched the news years eve TV program in NYC, with Brian Seacrest. Walked 40.9 km for the week.
Dec 20 to 26
Having finished the two newsletters I have been working on, I am now back entering names into my Link family file from The Descendants of Rogers Williams Book III. Tuesday evening my wife and I went to a Christmas Concert put on by the Songmen Six, called Sing We Christmas. They also had opera singer Julie Nesrallah there. She sang three items including Ave Maria and Silent Night. This is the best version of Silent Night I have heard. She is the host of Tempo on CBC Radio 2 (Classical Music). We went cross country skiing a couple of times during the week. The day before Christmas we had the two dogs over for the day. They enjoy being out in our back yard. Christmas day we had our two daughters and son-in-law and the two dogs over for the day. We had a very nice turkey dinner with all of the fixings. Played a game or two and watched a bit of TV etc. Leftovers available for a few days. The weather has been rather good with some cloud and sun but no snow to speak of. Walked 55 km for the week.
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